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		<title>Comment on Monckton und Klimasensitivität &#8211; Lehrer oder Schüler? by Anja Schulze</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2008/08/26/monckton-und-klimasensitivitat-lehrer-oder-schuler/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Anja Schulze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich moechte mich fuer diesen Text aeusserst bedanken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich moechte mich fuer diesen Text aeusserst bedanken.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Global Temperature 1979 &#8211; May 2008 &#8211; HATCrut3, Giss, NCDC, RSS, UAH by adamoerikom</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2008/06/23/global-temperature-1979-may-2008-hatcrut3-giss-ncdc-rss-uah/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>adamoerikom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stunning blog and good article. High 5 for u man !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunning blog and good article. High 5 for u man !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monckton und Klimasensitivität &#8211; Lehrer oder Schüler? by Katharina Stein</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2008/08/26/monckton-und-klimasensitivitat-lehrer-oder-schuler/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharina Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danke fuer die hilfreiche Antwort es ist ja nicht leicht eine gute Antwort zu finden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danke fuer die hilfreiche Antwort es ist ja nicht leicht eine gute Antwort zu finden.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Monckton and Climate Sensitivity: Teacher or Student? by Hugh R</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2008/08/21/monckton-and-climate-sensitivity-teacher-or-student/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,


I was pleased by your inclusion of the following comment:

&quot;Conclusion

1) The IPCC claims that most of the warming, not all of it, is attributable to human activities. It doesn’t say that all of the warming is because of rising CO2. Yet the IPCC model average “quietly assumes” that all of the past warming was because of rising CO2 equivalents.&quot;


My comment:
There are probably many well-informed scientists (I am one) who (a) have no objection to the postulate that regional and possibly global mean surface temperatures have been increased during the second half of the 20th century as a result of human activities, but who (b) see little or no grounds in the published literature, including the IPCC Working Group 1 reports, to attribute a more than a small amount of such recent warming to increases on the carbon dioxide (CO2) content of the earth&#039;s atmosphere.
The IPCC has, as in the passage you quote, for some reason tended (or even tried?) to blur the distinction between anthropogenic CO2 emissions and other anthropogenic climate forcings such as land use changes.   Why is IPCC doing this?  Is it just sloppy editing or is it a conscious decision to muddy the waters?
By failing to refer to the abundant corpus of detailed, authoritative, peer-reviewed and published work on land use change as a climate forcing such as that of Roger Pielke Sr and his co-workers, the IPCC is failing in its appointed - and seemingly well-funded - task and leaves itself open to charges of trying to advance a particular agenda by stealth.
I&#039;m not a climatologist, but if I was I&#039;d be wary of too close an association with this quasi-political organisation, even if that meant missing an opportunity for career advancement. I&#039;d prefer to keep my distance from IPCC - and retain my scientific independence. I take my science too seriously to do otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I was pleased by your inclusion of the following comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;Conclusion</p>
<p>1) The IPCC claims that most of the warming, not all of it, is attributable to human activities. It doesn’t say that all of the warming is because of rising CO2. Yet the IPCC model average “quietly assumes” that all of the past warming was because of rising CO2 equivalents.&#8221;</p>
<p>My comment:<br />
There are probably many well-informed scientists (I am one) who (a) have no objection to the postulate that regional and possibly global mean surface temperatures have been increased during the second half of the 20th century as a result of human activities, but who (b) see little or no grounds in the published literature, including the IPCC Working Group 1 reports, to attribute a more than a small amount of such recent warming to increases on the carbon dioxide (CO2) content of the earth&#8217;s atmosphere.<br />
The IPCC has, as in the passage you quote, for some reason tended (or even tried?) to blur the distinction between anthropogenic CO2 emissions and other anthropogenic climate forcings such as land use changes.   Why is IPCC doing this?  Is it just sloppy editing or is it a conscious decision to muddy the waters?<br />
By failing to refer to the abundant corpus of detailed, authoritative, peer-reviewed and published work on land use change as a climate forcing such as that of Roger Pielke Sr and his co-workers, the IPCC is failing in its appointed &#8211; and seemingly well-funded &#8211; task and leaves itself open to charges of trying to advance a particular agenda by stealth.<br />
I&#8217;m not a climatologist, but if I was I&#8217;d be wary of too close an association with this quasi-political organisation, even if that meant missing an opportunity for career advancement. I&#8217;d prefer to keep my distance from IPCC &#8211; and retain my scientific independence. I take my science too seriously to do otherwise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Global Temperature About to Fall Below IPCC Scenarios by jar.io • ECOLOGIA</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2008/07/09/global-temperature-about-to-fall-below-ipcc-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>jar.io • ECOLOGIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;As mudanças Climáticas...&lt;/strong&gt;

as mudanças climáticas que o mundo vem sofrendo são consequencias das más ações humanas, especialmente da devastação da floresta amazônica e a emissão crescente de poluentes
......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>As mudanças Climáticas&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>as mudanças climáticas que o mundo vem sofrendo são consequencias das más ações humanas, especialmente da devastação da floresta amazônica e a emissão crescente de poluentes<br />
&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Über sich abkühlende Ozeane und abflachende Meeresspiegel by Climate Patrol</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2009/04/19/uber-sich-abkuhlende-ozeane-und-abflachende-meeresspiege/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 11:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dank sei Dir, Krishnag! Ein Nackenschlag war spätestens der klärende Bericht von William DiPuccio, ein Wetterexperte der U.S. Navy, der sich bestens mit der Physik der Speicherung von Wärmeenergie in den Ozeanen auskennt. Klartext: Die Meere verlieren seit 2003 Wärme. Da vermag das Bisschen CO2 über den Kontinenten kaum etwas dagegen zu halten. Und es schneit fröhlich im schottischen Bergland, in den Rockies und bis weit in die kanadische Prärie hinein - im Juni 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dank sei Dir, Krishnag! Ein Nackenschlag war spätestens der klärende Bericht von William DiPuccio, ein Wetterexperte der U.S. Navy, der sich bestens mit der Physik der Speicherung von Wärmeenergie in den Ozeanen auskennt. Klartext: Die Meere verlieren seit 2003 Wärme. Da vermag das Bisschen CO2 über den Kontinenten kaum etwas dagegen zu halten. Und es schneit fröhlich im schottischen Bergland, in den Rockies und bis weit in die kanadische Prärie hinein &#8211; im Juni 2009!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Über sich abkühlende Ozeane und abflachende Meeresspiegel by Krishna Gans</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2009/04/19/uber-sich-abkuhlende-ozeane-und-abflachende-meeresspiege/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishna Gans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hervorragender Beitrag und ein Nackenschlag für Klimahysteriker, die Mumbay und New York schon als Aquarium sahen.
;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hervorragender Beitrag und ein Nackenschlag für Klimahysteriker, die Mumbay und New York schon als Aquarium sahen.<br />
;.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Giss versus UAH: 85,7% more warming after 30 years! by Climate Patrol</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2009/01/22/giss-versus-uah-857-more-warming-after-30-years/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite, Sod.

There are still unresolved past issues in both satellite data for sure. However, RSS did an excellent analysis using samplings to compare same pixels of the global picture of the two satellite measurements and some radiosonde measurements. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.remss.com/msu/msu_data_validation.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Their own conclusion&lt;/a&gt; is not only a better agreement between UAH and radiosondes compared to RSS &lt;b&gt;in the tropics&lt;/b&gt; but also a &lt;b&gt;striking agreement between the sampled trends between 75S and 75N between UAH and HadAT&lt;/b&gt;. Of course, everyone is free to draw their own conclusions from this. This is certainly not the end of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite, Sod.</p>
<p>There are still unresolved past issues in both satellite data for sure. However, RSS did an excellent analysis using samplings to compare same pixels of the global picture of the two satellite measurements and some radiosonde measurements. <a href="http://www.remss.com/msu/msu_data_validation.html" rel="nofollow">Their own conclusion</a> is not only a better agreement between UAH and radiosondes compared to RSS <b>in the tropics</b> but also a <b>striking agreement between the sampled trends between 75S and 75N between UAH and HadAT</b>. Of course, everyone is free to draw their own conclusions from this. This is certainly not the end of the story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Giss versus UAH: 85,7% more warming after 30 years! by sod</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2009/01/22/giss-versus-uah-857-more-warming-after-30-years/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>sod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so will you change your title?

&quot;what the heck is wrong with the low UAH 30 years warming trend&quot; would be a good start...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so will you change your title?</p>
<p>&#8220;what the heck is wrong with the low UAH 30 years warming trend&#8221; would be a good start&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Giss versus UAH: 85,7% more warming after 30 years! by Climate Patrol</title>
		<link>http://climatepatrol.net/2009/01/22/giss-versus-uah-857-more-warming-after-30-years/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Patrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;well, 27% is very different from 85%.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Sure, 27% is the slope difference and 85% is the final index difference of 2008 versus 1979. I thought it was well documented above. And yes, I did read your link. In &lt;a href=&quot;http://climatepatrol.net/2008/11/17/rss-micro-sound-temperature-tends-cooler-than-surface/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a former post&lt;/a&gt; I gave trend updates as of October 2008, just after Mears adjusted their RSS dataset downward.
Satellites:
UAH + 0.127/decade (unchanged)
RSS + 0.159/decade (old + 0.169)

Surfaces:
Giss + 0.161/dec.
HadCrut3 + 0.16/dec.
NCDC + 1.627/dec.

Does Giss have the most significant warming? No, it&#039;s NCDC. Are Giss, HadCrut3, NCDC and RSS similar? Yes, you are right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>well, 27% is very different from 85%.</p></blockquote>
<p> Sure, 27% is the slope difference and 85% is the final index difference of 2008 versus 1979. I thought it was well documented above. And yes, I did read your link. In <a href="http://climatepatrol.net/2008/11/17/rss-micro-sound-temperature-tends-cooler-than-surface/" rel="nofollow">a former post</a> I gave trend updates as of October 2008, just after Mears adjusted their RSS dataset downward.<br />
Satellites:<br />
UAH + 0.127/decade (unchanged)<br />
RSS + 0.159/decade (old + 0.169)</p>
<p>Surfaces:<br />
Giss + 0.161/dec.<br />
HadCrut3 + 0.16/dec.<br />
NCDC + 1.627/dec.</p>
<p>Does Giss have the most significant warming? No, it&#8217;s NCDC. Are Giss, HadCrut3, NCDC and RSS similar? Yes, you are right.</p>
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